Starting Point For A Practitioner

topic posted Sat, October 18, 2008 - 10:22 AM by  LaDonna Lorcan
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I will be completing a level 1 and 2 course soon at Lotus Palm in Montreal(excellent school, by the way!) and wanted to know what my options were as far as being able to offer my service. I know about the whole 'assisted yoga' thing as a way to get around certain regulations, and read that someone on here talked about just calling it Thai Yoga as a way to not attract vice, I think, but I wanted to know legitimate starting points. My states of focus for running a Thai business will be Philadelphia and Miami. Also, I am regulated to work on boats, so I will be looking into yacht work. Anyone have any good suggestions?
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LaDonna Lorcan
Philadelphia
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  • Re: Starting Point For A Practitioner

    Sun, October 19, 2008 - 9:04 AM
    I am all for civil disobedience, and governments regulating you out of a livelihood because you don't have permission (license) really does my head in.

    That having been said, it seems to me like you're asking how to practice massage in the united states, in jurisdictions that require a license, without actually having a license. I think that's not so good.

    Most jurisdictions in the united states have very similar massage licensure requirements, which include things beyond the scope of "how to give a massage"... for instance, universal precautions, ethics, anatomy/physiology/pathology. Perhaps you can give an outstanding massage, but if you're going to represent my profession to others, you damn well better know your stuff.

    So I guess I can say I empathise with your situation, but if you find yourself facing prosecution for practicing without a license, or malpractice due to lack of training or perspective, don't expect any sympathy.
    • Re: Starting Point For A Practitioner

      Mon, October 20, 2008 - 1:57 PM
      Well, thanks for the un-asked-for and quite unnecessary tongue-lashing Changnoi. I guess as careful as you are in your profession you weren't very careful in reading my posting, which specifically asked for LEGITIMATE starting points..basically how to start a practice Without Breaking Any Laws. Nice attitude, by the way.
      • Re: Starting Point For A Practitioner

        Tue, October 21, 2008 - 6:14 AM
        You asked for "a way to get around certain regulations"... if that is not a polar opposite or even a converse to "legitimate" by dictionary definition, then I don't know what kind of dictionary you're using.

        Obviously we're talking a different language. I tried to be very respectful with how I said it, and if you perceive it as a "tongue-lashing" well then maybe that's what you were expecting to receive.

        Now if you had explicitly stated that you wanted to learn some LEGITIMATE starting points, or you had explicitly stated that you wanted to learn how to start a practice Without Breaking Any Laws, then I would have responded differently.

        Offense can only be taken, it cannot be given. Grow some elephant skin.

        Namaste
        • Re: Starting Point For A Practitioner

          Tue, October 21, 2008 - 6:17 AM
          sorry, editing error before post button. what I meant to say in that third paragraph was:

          Now if you had explicitly stated that you wanted to learn how to start a practice Without Breaking Any Laws, then I would have responded differently.

          (gotta type fast, bus on the way ;-)
          • Re: Starting Point For A Practitioner

            Wed, October 22, 2008 - 8:24 PM
            I'm sorry, now that I've thought about it, you're absolutely right. I don't need one of those "jump to conclusion mats" hehehe I've got one in me already.

            Instead of that I'd love to help start the constructive ideas. Are you looking for information about licensure? Or about starting to practice just in general?

            I've found that Google Local is a great place to start because so many people use it as a search engine and it's weighted towards the Locals. Also, get or make yourself a good mat and get in contact with fitness and yoga instructors. Offer to bring your mat and give them a Thai Massage so they can experience it for themselves. In passing mention you're looking for space. Have a rudimentary contract in case they offer to let you use their space and clientelle list on a percentage basis.

            You mentioned boats as well. Do you do personal watercraft? Hook up with local clubs and offer massages in exchange for instruction or companionship or networking voodoo ;-}

            Find a chiropractor or two that wants a Thai Massage. These guys are the Pain Front Line in a lot of communities, and a lot of them employ massage therapists. They may need an on-call therapist to come in and deal with scheduled patients that are getting adjustments or other treatments + massage. Can you do 15 min of seated neck work enough to make a neck adjustment go easier? I bet you can ;-} This can be a mainline into a large medical community where nice people make it their job to bill insurance companies and pay a good wage.

            I hope this can be more helpful and less offensive. I'm sorry for antagonizing you earlier.
            • Re: Starting Point For A Practitioner

              Thu, October 23, 2008 - 9:17 PM
              Wow. I think I need a neck treatment right now, 'cause I just caught a wicked case of whiplash!

              Seriously, that was more along the lines of what I was thinking of. I know I am not ready to have a full on business yet, but I need to get started somewhere. Continuing to learn is a top priority but so is bringing in something to live on. I still have to get through completing all 30 required massages to earn my certifications, but I am not allowing that to slow me down.
              I am currently on leave from a job I work aboard a cruise ship..unfortunately in the restaurant dept( nothing will make you run swiftly into the arms of Metta like working this job) I work 5 months on; 5 weeks off. I am already certified in hatha Yoga. Thai was the next step in my learning. I'm going to complete my massages when I go back to work. I have lots of friends on board, who aren't going anywhere. But after I leave there, I want to be ready to be able to take care of myself professionally. I'm getting my first mat set tomorrow.
              As for the neck treatment, I'm at about 8-10 minutes right now, honestly. Unless I can throw in a delicious head massage!

              Thanks for the suggestions. Some stuff I had thought of, but some I hadn't. Like the chiropractor.
              • Re: Starting Point For A Practitioner

                Fri, October 24, 2008 - 12:16 AM
                I responded to a Craigslist ad for a Pilates instructor seeking a Thai Massage therapist. I called and offered to give her a massage and she accepted. I gave her a massage and then she revealed that I was the only respondent that offered a massage. I negotiated a 70/30 split with her and access to each others' clientelle which has been mutually beneficial to us both.

                Last winter, I worked out a 2-month plan with her, trading massage for Pilates instruction. After my first workout, I was extremely sore the next day. The second day, I was stretching while waiting for a client to show up, and noticed that my hamstring stretch increased 4 inches from a week ago.

                I knew nothing about Pilates before that, and now I feel that I have learned a lot about my body, and bodies in general, valuable knowledge that I can pass on to my clients. Use those required massages to network and build a word-of-mouth clientelle that can help you as you help them.

                ;-}

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